Chicago Republicans

I heard someone say "and those that aren't gay" about the Illinois Republican Party. He was implying a significant number of staff of the Illinois GOP are gay? Is this true? Anyone know what's going on here?

You are gunna have to elaborate a little, I think. But if the GOP staff is predominantly gay, then we may have a problem. I read on another post here, that there were some Republican bosses in Chicago who were actually putting up Democrat election yard signs. Sabotage??

Yes we have bigger problems than most people realize. Topinka filled the state party with gays when she was chairman. I don't know who is still around, but there used to be a bunch. Gay or straight, they pretty much just sit and spin now.

Also, calling Republican Committeemen "bosses" is a bit overstated. These are title seeking clowns. Several years ago almost all the Chicago GOP Committeemen were Dems, Dem assistants, or Dem plants. The new yuppee-types are doing a good job getting rid of them.

You are referring to Tony Capuzi. He is a Committeeman who has a state job. He was putting up yard signs for the Democrat Chairman Joe Berrios, who by the way is probably the most corrupt scumbag in city government. His board of review position is nothing more than a giant kickback scheme. You should talk to staff members.

"Also, calling Republican Committeemen "bosses" is a bit overstated. These are title seeking clowns. Several years ago almost all the Chicago GOP Committeemen were Dems, Dem assistants, or Dem plants. The new yuppee-types are doing a good job getting rid of them. "

Well they have more clout and say so than me, and the term "boss" can be related to mafia types as well, lol


"Yes we have bigger problems than most people realize. Topinka filled the state party with gays when she was chairman. I don't know who is still around, but there used to be a bunch. Gay or straight, they pretty much just sit and spin now.'

Well my concern is a flood of moderates or libs. It's time for a house cleaning, that's long overdue. Sweep the party clean and start over.

If you want to clean out the liberals from the state party, that's fine, and I support that. But you might want to be careful about throwing around the word "gay" as if it were an accusation.

I was only getting started in politics when Topinka was ILGOP Chairman. If I remember correctly, the complaint was the gay employees were militantly liberal and abused their authority at the state party.

I remember there were several complaints about "unprofessional" behavior so I suspect there was some validity to these complaints.

While I blame Topinka for causing many of her own problems, there are some conservative who actually are whack jobs. They hurt us all.

The marriage amendment guy is obsessed with gay club opennings. I never understood why he felt the need to track and report leather and fetish stuff. I have heard many people speculate he is gay, but can not accept it. Tick, tick, tick...

I have seen the Log Cabin Republican guys do some great work. I don't think you can paint everyone with the same brush.

If you want to clean out the liberals from the state party, that's fine, and I support that. But you might want to be careful about throwing around the word "gay" as if it were an accusation.




THAT, is why we lose. And there are many Liberals who call themselves Republicans and they should be swept out as well.

Log Cabin Republicans

Why We Exist

Log Cabin Republicans work to make the Republican Party more inclusive, particularly on gay and lesbian issues. Equality will be impossible to achieve without Republican votes. Working from inside the Party—educating other Republicans about gay and lesbian issues—is the most effective way to gain new Republican allies for equality. Log Cabin also exists as a voice for GOP values among members of the gay and lesbian community.



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We are first and foremost a grassroots organization. Thousands of members in dozens of chapters across the country work inside the GOP to change hearts and minds. One person at a time, we are building a stronger Republican party and a better America.

Then join the Libs, we have our platforms. This is just a move to the left. Most gays will not support us unless we do a 180 and support their cause. And I am fine with that. If a gay wants to overlook that and join us, then I have no problem with that. But if they, or anyone else, thinks they are gunna waltz in here and morph us into their version of what the Party should be, then hit the road.

Sorry, but whether or not you are gay...it should NOT be brought into the political world! Just like with Affirmative Action...your race, gender or sexual preference should not be an issue...should not be a topic of discussion and should not be promoted within the Party!

We are supposed to be the Party that looks at one's credentials, skills, values, knowledge, experience, education, etc...not someone that judges on "behavior" or "skin color" or "sex"...PERIOD!

So if you are gay...fine...but keep it to yourself...keep it in your PRIVATE LIFE...where it belongs...or be prepared to listen to me go on and on about all the men in my life too!!!!

Excuse me for dismissing homophobia as useless to our party's platform. You can oppose gay marriage, or call them sinners, or do whatever it is that you do, but there is no sense in rumor-mongering about "I heard there were some gays in the party..."

If you're concerned about their political disposition and ideology, then debate their ideology and call them liberals. If your concerned about their souls, then pray for them.

But you know something....I heard our party chairman was a black guy. Oh yeah, he's also a BAMF and a pretty damn good conservative. But why not make him a caricature too?
I know! You can call him Uncle Tom.

You sure do know how to command respect.

See...again, why does it matter if they are gay or not? I don't want to know...no one "needs" to know...its their PRIVATE business...geesh! Again, you want to keep it POLITICAL, not PERSONAL...and diving into someones sexual preferences makes it personal.

That has NO PLACE in political discussions and the Republican Party only hurts themselves and discredits their platform when they try to pretend they "reach out" to homosexuals too. We are a party FOR ALL PEOPLE...no need to fill out the census when you walk through the door...that's the POINT!!!

Its the Democrats who like to put people into various categories so they can manipulate and twist their platform to "meet" all their supporters agenda's...Republicans are supposed to stand firm on their principles and core values, not bend with the wind based on the "minority" group they are speaking with!

Guess that's not the case anymore though, huh?????

And if you want respect...then you have to give it...I don't see the majority of the gays giving much respect to ANYONE NOT in their little activist groups...especially if you happen to hold ANY religious values at all!!

Excuse, ME, but in case you hadn't noticed, but in this last election, 95% of blacks voted for the black guy! In case you further didn't know, but most gays are LIBERALS! And even MORE, Liberals run, not only this city, but this god forsaken STATE!

I also addressed the talk about a supposed Republican(s) in our party, who was activley campaiging for the DEMOCRATS, as long as we are gunna keep this all in context! And it is a FACT, that most blacks vote DEMOCRAT! God forbid I use general facts as something to point out and may be a little skeptical about a person who is part of a group that votes for my enemies 95% of the time!

I don't want respect, that is for weak people to WANT! I want someone who is a Conservative to Goddman fight the Liberals for ONCE! NOT invite them into the party. NOT pander to them. And NOT allow them to change OUR platforms for the sake of Political Correctness!!!

Uncle Tom...Bite off! You sound like a damn LIBERAL!

I think you folks are being a little presumptuous assuming that gay people are all liberal or moles within OUR party.

There are many Log Cabin Republicans in Illinois, many if not most of whom are gay or lesbian individuals. Most of these individual self identify as "Republican" and many within that demographic identify as "conservative" to "very conservative".

So, you know what, my Religious Right friends? Neither do you own conservative principles nor do you have a "choke hold" on God and His life principles. That being said, Log Cabin Republicans believe that in America ALL have the rights to the principles outlined in our Constitution - the rights to Justice, Liberty and Equality.

So regardless of whether you believe you can condemn any segment of society to an eternity in Hell by the way in which you interpret your bibles, our Constition guarantees us all that your personal views will not infringe on ANYONE's rights as declared in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I know many gay and lesbian Republicans in Illinois who dont' consider that they every had infiltrated the Illinois Republican Party regardless of whether Judy Baar Topinka had hired a few of the "best people for the job" regardless of their sexuality (which, by the way, is illegal to ask when hiring someone in Illinois).

In order to grow our dear GOP in Illinois, we must stop listening to one "elitist" group and accept all regardless of their color, creed, sexuality, etc. As long as one believes in the principles of the Republican Party which have always unified people and not those wedge issues which only serve to fragment us, then I believe they have as much right to belong to the Party of Abraham Lincoln as any one else.

Let's bring our Party back to the days when it grew and held the ideals of Liberty in the Land of Lincoln!

As long as one upholds our platforms and ideals, they are welcome to join our party. But if they are going to join with the hopes of pushing through their own agenda, contrary to the Republican party's, then they are NOT welcome! We are open to anyone, regardless of of anything, as long as they share our ideals.

From the Log Cabin Republican Site:
"Creating Change

We are first and foremost a grassroots organization. Thousands of members in dozens of chapters across the country work inside the GOP to change hearts and minds. One person at a time, we are building a stronger Republican party and a better America."


"to change the hearts and minds"

THAT, is an agenda! THAT is deliberatly trying to change our platfoms! And as far as it being "illegal to ask when hiring someone in Illinois", THAT is a LIBERAL idea that protects one group while limiting the freedoms of another! As far as Topinka giving jobs to certain people, does not mean that she didn't know what she was doing. Those jobs aren't like other jobs that average people apply for, so gimme a break!

And sorry, but you are wrong about the whole "God" thing you referred to. And it is not helping our party for you to go around pissing off other members so that you can placate to others, who generally vote for our adversaries!

And if we have to conform to people who generally do not vote for us because of their minority status, then we should just fade away. What is the point then? Either they join us because of our principles, or they do not, that's all. If we have to morph to "grow", then we aren't growing at all. I mean, what's next then? Republican support for: Higher taxes? Bigger governmnet? Socialized healthcare? PETA?!

If we cannot win on our own merits, then forget it! We are done! Then the majority of people do not want what we offer. And if you just want to "win", then forget it! That is NOT what we are about, and we certainly are not about what we "can do" for you, or what we will "give" you! That is NOT what our party is about!

If we become the party of "bribes for votes" then we deserve to fall.

Your pathetic little "attack" on the "Religious Right", was no better than my questioning gays in top leadership roles in a party that is supposed to stand up for family values! So get off your hypocritical high horse! You are no better than me you POS! Times have changed since Lincoln, man, that was 146 years ago! Lincoln didn't have to deal with 1960's "free love" radical socialist/communists! This aint the Libertarian Party man!

And yeah, Reagan was WRONG about the Briggs Initiative and it is clearly proven today!

So kiss my ass my little atheist, gay comrade!